Locomotive clasa 48 "Transmontana" made by Softronic

Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 31 Mai 2011, 00:11

Ei bine, va ofer si eu in avans, o panorama cu aceasta masina la peronul 5 al Garii de Nord din Bucuresti. Enjoy! :dance:

TransMontana la peronul 5 al Garii de Nord din Bucuresti.jpg
TransMontana la peronul 5 al Garii de Nord din Bucuresti / Foto: Daniel


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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 31 Mai 2011, 08:11

Va ofer inca un panoramic cu TransMontana. :D
Imagine :dance:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Cosmin pe 01 Iun 2011, 20:49

Asta-i faina numa cand are toate farurile aprinse:X
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde sulzerul 0733 pe 01 Iun 2011, 21:44

Luni dimineata, in jurul orei 07.00, "Hannah Montana" inca nu fusese dusa la teste, ci statea cuminte in remiza Faurei, alaturi de doua LDE GM, asteptand momentul ducerii acesteia la testare. Din trecerea trenului P7362 Galati-Buzau in care ma aflam, am "reusit" sa-i trantesc o poza, iar rezultatul e HORROR, mi-a iesit ceva ingrozitor, o poza care-ti produce cosmaruri :D Daca vreti sa radeti cu gura pana la urechi, intrati pe contul meu de facebook.
In alta ordine de idei, Trans Montana mi se pare o locomotiva ok, cu un aspect foarte placut. Tot ce regret e faptul ca, din cauza serviciului, n-am mai putut ramane in zona macar o zi, cat sa o privesc si s-o pozez la teste :(
Recunosc public ca ma droghez. Trenul este drogul meu, pt el traiesc, prin el traiesc :D
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Oana Valentina pe 02 Iun 2011, 08:52

zofei.2006 scrie:PREZENTAT LA: Imagine

Tehnical Caracteristics

This new romanian electric engine is assigned to Class 48 - the newest engine class in Romania.

The new Trans Montana electric engine from Softronic.jpg


Constructive and functional characteristics

- axle formula : CoCo
- length over buffers: 19740 mm
- windth: 3000 mm
- pantograpf operating range under the conctact line measured from the upper side of the head of rail : 4850 - 6700 mm
- distance between the centeres of the bogies: 10300 mm
- distance between the extreme axles of a bogie: 4350 mm
- wheel diameter in new state: 1250 mm
- wheel diameter in senu-used state: 1210 mm
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The brake is operated by one cilinder for each axle and has a protection system against bloking independent on each cylinder.
The multiplication ratio: rod gear/block/cylinder is of 1:11,6
The braking distance for isolated running of the railway at V = 100 km/h is Sf = 600 m.
The alarm brake brake can be operated from each driving board throug an alarm tap.
A separate air circuit is provide for the saftey instalation INDUSI and DSV type wich, in case of command realeses the emergency brake.
The sanding device are equipped with electro-valves, whose operation is in conection with the direction of movement, being supplied with a 10 bars pressure.
A separate cicruit 10 bars is provided for the wheel flange lubrication installation, with the possibility to isolate the air the spply part.


Traction - brake characteristic ( long term conditions)

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Haulage characteristics LE-MA

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arata super :dance: ...zici ca nu e adevarata :D
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 02 Iun 2011, 09:03

Asa este...Dupa parerea mea,autocolantul o face de 20 de ori mai speciala.Au ales foarte bine modelul caroseriei,in afara de partea ce leaga cele doua faruri principale(seamana cu ochelarii unei bunicute) :lol:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 04 Iun 2011, 23:43

And now, for our foreign readers, a short report of what happend last week (on 29 of May 2011) in the Gara de Nord Station of Bucharest. This was one of the biggest events of the year for the train enthusiastycs in Romania: TransMontana locomotive (also nicknamed "Hannah Montana" by it's romanian fans), departed from Craiova, the city where SOFTRONIC company (the constructor) is found. The engine belongs to Class 48 electrical engines (the newest class in Romania), and it's been numbered as: 91-53 0480 001-3 (48-0001-3). But the main technical details are already given to you at the beginning of this topic.

1.TransMontana engine arriving on the Gara de Nord station, Bucharest with the A 1692 train.jpg
Foto: Daniel


Now I will tell you what happend on 29 of may in Bucharest in the following photo report. The engine is being tested in order to be transfered to the National Railway of Romania (CFR). The best place to be tested is the Testing Ring of Faurei (the biggest rail testing polygon in Eastern Europe). Montana to arrive from Craiova to Faurei, had to stop by in Bucharest. In order to achieve this task the mechanicals and the engineers, had to attach the engine in front of a train which comes from Timisoara to Bucharest, via Craiova. So, the engine was coupled in front of the A 1692 train, a train tracted by the engine Class 41-0889-04 belonging to the Timisoara Depot.

2.The same machine slowing down.jpg
Foto: Daniel


About 14:30 P.M. the train arrives in Bucharest, in the main railway station - Gara de Nord. Here a lot of train enthusiastycs were waiting for Montana to see and photograph. Among them, my friend Trifu22 broadcasting the event live on the internet through a webcam. The train arrived at the 5th line of the station, and the engine had to be decoupled from 41-0889-0 in order to move to the Bucuresti Calatori Depot were it has been prepared to be attached to another train to Faurei. But let's see some photo's from this event with some new details of the engine. ;)

3.The new 48 Class TransMontana from Softronic.jpg
Foto: Daniel

4.The engine Class 41-0889-0 belonging to the Timisoara Depot at the same train.jpg
Foto: Daniel

5.The two engines and the first train-car (an ex-DB Halberstadt type reconstructed in Romania).jpg
Foto: Daniel

6.Trifu22 broadcasting live from Gara de Nord using a WebCam.jpg
Foto: Daniel

7.Montana is being uncoupled from 0889.jpg
Foto: Daniel

8.The new Montana and the old Class 41-0889-0 at the end of the line.jpg
Foto: Daniel

9.TransMontana standing at the end of the 5th line in Gara de Nord of Bucharest.jpg
Foto: Daniel

10.Detail of buffers, coupling system and plough on Montana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

11.Detail of the bogeys.jpg
Foto: Daniel

12.41-0889-0 leaving the station to the technical group with the train cars of the A1692 train (Timisoara Nord - Bucuresti Nord).jpg
Foto: Daniel

13.Another view of the bogeys.jpg
Foto: Daniel

14.The cab's door.jpg
Foto: Daniel

15.The video camera mounted nearby the cab's door.jpg
Foto: Daniel

16.Looking back....jpg
Foto: Daniel


And now, let's take a closer and more detailed look, on this new romanian machine:

17.TransMontana awaiting the retreat to the Bucuresti Calatori (BC) Depot.jpg
Foto: Daniel

18. Adapted inductor for the MAV railway (Hungary). Inductor adaptat pentru reteaua MAV.jpg
Foto: Daniel

19. Type MV 4 inductor. Inductor tip MV 4.jpg
Foto: Daniel

20.Image under the cross broke, and the two inductors. Imagine sub traversa fronatala. Se observa si cei doi inductori..jpg
Foto: Daniel

21.Automatic shoe cover of the camp placed on the cross borke. Capac al lagarului de cupla automata plasat pe traversa frontala.jpg
Foto: Daniel

22.Detail of the train heating cable under the cross broke. Detaliu cablu de incalzire tren sub traversa frontala.jpg
Foto: Daniel

23.The brake cylinder. Cilindrul de frana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

24.Detail of the LED lamp and final train headlamp. Detaliu far cu leduri si lampa finala tren.jpg
Foto: Daniel

25. Buffers, coupling system and headlights.jpg
Foto: Daniel

26.Cab's windows.jpg
Foto: Daniel

27. The 1st post of the engine.jpg
Foto: Daniel

28.Trans Montana engine (view from the 1st post).jpg
Foto: Daniel


Let's look deeper under the engine...

29. Detail of the traction motor. Detaliu motor de tractiune.jpg
Foto: Daniel

30.CFR type of inductor. Inductor CFR.jpg
Foto: Daniel

31.In detail the elements of the articulated quadrilater of the secondary suspension system. Detaliu elemente patrulater articulat al suspensiei secundare.jpg
Foto: Daniel

32.Tachogenerators for registering the speed on the spedometer. Tahogenerator (pentru inregistrarea vitezei la vitezometru).jpg
Foto: Daniel

33.Detail of the rubber cushion, Metalast type, of the secondary suspesnsion system. Detaliu perna de cauciuc tip Metalast al suspensiei secundare.jpg
Foto: Daniel

34.The traction motor nr 2 (of six). Motorul 2 de tractiune.jpg
Foto: Daniel

35.The main suspension system's support. Suportul suspensiei principale.jpg
Foto: Daniel

36.Detail articulated quadrilateral, wheelhouse brakes, shock absorbers and access ladder. Detaliu patrulater articulat, timonerie de frana, amortizoare si scarita de acces.jpg
Foto: Daniel

37.Element of the main suspension system. Element al suspenisiei principale.jpg
Foto: Daniel

38.Grounding device (it prevents bearing scuffing). Detaliu dispozitiv de inpamantare (ce previne griparea rulmentilor).jpg
Foto: Daniel

39.Wheel, taining Axle and grounding device. Ansamblu roata, cutie de osie si impamantare.jpg
Foto: Daniel

40.Detail on the hydraulic damper. Detaliu amortizor hidraulic.jpg
Foto: Daniel

41.Hydraulic damper. Amortizor hidraulic.jpg
Foto: Daniel

42.Signal panel of the brakes. Panou de semnalizare pentru frana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

43.Battery box. Lada bateriilor.jpg
Foto: Daniel

44.Brake cylinder, air reservoir and  brake cross wheelhouse. Cilindru de frana, rezervor de aer si timonerie transversala de frana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

45.Wheelhouse brake. Detaliu timonerie de frana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

46.The same wheelhouse brake on general view. Plan general timonerie.jpg
Foto: Daniel


Let's see now the bogeys and take a closer look to the suspension system:

47.Suspension's elements. Elemente de suspensie.jpg
Foto: Daniel

48.General view of the secondary suspension system. Plan general suspensie secundara.jpg
Foto: Daniel

49.Connecting rods of the axle box to the bogeys (connecting rods for traction). Bieleta de prindere a cutiei de boghiuri (bieleta de tractiune).jpg
Foto: Daniel

50.In the center of the image the axle lubrication system's reservoir. In centru rezervor sistem de ungere a buzelor osiilor.jpg
Foto: Daniel

51.Detail of this reservoir. Detaliu rezervor ungere osii.jpg
Foto: Daniel

52.Sandbox's pipe. Conducta nisipar.jpg
Foto: Daniel

53.Sand reservoir. Rezervor de nisip.jpg
Foto: Daniel


An interesting thing: the videocamera which replaces the old rear-view mirror, is placed in the back of the cabin's door:

54.Video camera. Camera video.jpg
Foto: Daniel


Let's return to the bogeys.

55.Secondary suspension's overall view. Ansamblu suspensie secundara.jpg
Foto: Daniel

56.Sensor of the secondary suspension system. Senzor al suspensiei secundare.jpg
Foto: Daniel

57.Metalast and the main's suspension support. Metalastic si suport suspensie principala.jpg
Foto: Daniel


In the next images we will see some other interesting details as it follows:

58.Valves of the air pipes. Robineti conducte de aer.jpg
Foto: Daniel

59.Overall view of the buffers, copuling system and plough..jpg
Foto: Daniel

60.The G1-200M type of buffer..jpg
Foto: Daniel

61.Detail of the buffer. Detaliu tampon G1-200M.jpg
Foto: Daniel

62.The branch flange. Flansa cuplei.jpg
Foto: Daniel

63.Flange, traction kook, and screw coupling. Flansa, carlig de tractiune si cupla cu surub.jpg
Foto: Daniel

64.Electrical outlet of the heating system at 1500v.Priza de alimentare a sistemului de incalzire tren de 1500v.jpg
Foto: Daniel

65.Axle grease reservoir with level indicator. Rezevor ungere osii cu niveleta.jpg
Foto: Daniel

66.Axle's overall. Ansamblu osii.jpg
Foto: Daniel


About 15:15 P.M. Montana had to leave the Gara de Nord Station and enter to the Bucuresti Calatori Depot in order to be coupled to another train to Faurei. We had enough time to study other parts of this machine. :dance:

67. The transMontana 48-0001-3 engine waiting to depart..jpg
Foto: Daniel

68.Machine's overall view..jpg
Foto: Daniel

69. Retracted pantograph..jpg
Foto: Daniel

70.The 'Schunk' type of pantograph produced by Stemmann Technik. Pantograf Schunk..jpg
Foto: Daniel

71.Sled with two brushes and anti hanging safety device. Sanie cu doua perii si dispozitiv de siguranta anti agatare pantograf.jpg
Foto: Daniel

72.GPS Antenna. Antena sistem GPS.jpg
Foto: Daniel

73.Post nr. 2.jpg
Foto: Daniel

74.Montana with one raised pantograh..jpg
Foto: Daniel

75.The second pantograph is raised in order to move in the opposite direction. This is a rule in Romania to prevent the pantograph's hanging..jpg
Foto: Daniel

76.Dynamic overall view..jpg
Foto: Daniel

77.Ready to leave the Gara de Nord station of Bucharest..jpg
Foto: Daniel

78.Montana leaving the station..jpg
Foto: Daniel


We run at the Depot and took some pictures of the locomotive's board. At the end of this short pohoto session, I caught the engine of the next train to be coupled to Faurei: the R 873 Bucuresti - Galati. The other machine is Class 41-7871-4 belonging to the Bucuresti Calatori Depot, the main engine of this train which had to become the second untill Faurei.

79.Board's detail with traction controller. Detaliu bord si controler de tractiune.jpg
Foto: Daniel

80.The INDUSI's control pannel with buttons. Panou cu butoane ale instalatiei INDUSI.jpg
Foto: Daniel

81.Board and network monitor. Bord si monitor retrovizor.jpg
Foto: Daniel

82.Board of the mechanical aid. Bord ajutor mecanic.jpg
Foto: Daniel

82b.The Class 47- 7871-4 engine of the Bucuresti Calatori Depot to be coupled to Montana..jpg
Foto: Daniel


About 18:21 P.M. we caught Montana again on the M300 railway, with the R 873 train hedding to Faurei, via Ploiesti. The average speed on this section is about 140km/h. Let's see this convoy running in the fields. These are the last images tooked by me with Montana, before being tested on Faurei Ring.

83.TransMontana on the M300 railway..jpg
Foto: Daniel

84.The convoy approaces with speed..jpg
Foto: Daniel

85.TransMontana with 47-7871-4 tracting the Rapid train 873 from Bucharest to Galati.jpg
Foto: Daniel

86.47-7871-4 is the second engine, tracted by TransMontana.jpg
Foto: Daniel

87.The train is heading to Ploiesti at the maximum speed (140kmh).jpg
Foto: Daniel

88.First main station is Buftea but the train doesn't stops untill Ploiesti.jpg
Foto: Daniel

89.The last car of the train, a 1nd class car series 19-83 (in fact, an old WLAB type of sleeping car reconstructed as a 1nd class car)..jpg
Foto: Daniel


Untill next time, we must leave good bye from it, but not before offering you a new panorama of this new romanian engine:

Panorama of the TransMontana engine by SOFTRONIC (2).jpg
Panorama of the TransMontana engine by SOFTRONIC (2) / Foto: Daniel


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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 11 Iun 2011, 18:04

Ei bine, din cate am inteles, masina a fost testata la Faurei la o viteza maxima de 160km/h si s-a comportat excelent. Daca aveti alte informatii, astept cu interes. ;)
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 11 Iun 2011, 20:06

Dupa acest test,TransMontana si-a avariat unul dintre faruri.Mai mult,ea a killer-it peste 1000 de tantari.Sincer,mi se pare o viteza cam mica pentru o asemenea locomotiva. :roll:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde EA1clony106 pe 11 Iun 2011, 22:44

ea nu este facuta pentru viteza , ci este facuta pentru putere,forta
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Dar pulsul monstrului titanic,
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 11 Iun 2011, 22:46

Asa este. Dupa cum bine stiti daca ati citit bine, este destinata traficului de marfuri. :mrgreen:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde zofei.2006 pe 12 Iun 2011, 19:07

Viteza maxima 180 km/h atinsa in probele de la Faurei.
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde kdlehel pe 12 Iun 2011, 20:02

ceva poze in interioarul salii masinilor nu este?
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 12 Iun 2011, 20:05

Poate vei avea ceva noroc daca o sa cauti prin pozele de la Zilele Feroviare 2011.Succes la cautari! ;)
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 12 Iun 2011, 20:50

Ei bine, am mai scotocit putin si am gasit cateva instantanee din sala masinilor:

Panou de diagnoza a sistemului de control tractiune (IGBT.jpg
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Punte stanga sala masinilor.jpg
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Punte dreapta sala masinilor.jpg
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 15 Iun 2011, 19:55

Astazi,TransMontana s-a aflat la tractiunea trenului R795 Bucuresti Nord-Craiova.Am vazut ca a fost spalata si ca farul spart a fost inlocuit.Dupa spusele mecanicului,farul a fost spart de un fazan.Acum se faceau teste,locomotiva avand furtune pe bot.Mecanicul mi-a spus ca acele furtune ajuta la simularea ploilor si astfel ei pot controla demarajul locomotivei.Maine,locomotiva se va afla tot la carma acestui tren.Ii astept pe toti cei care vor sa o pozeze.Si eu o sa fiu acolo.Peste aproximativ o luna,TransMontana va fi mutata pe trenurile ce au ca destinatie Constanta.Ea va ramane la CFR Calatori :)Cam atat... :dance:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Chev Celios pe 15 Iun 2011, 22:01

Montana pe trenurile de Constanta. :o :o :o :o :o
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 15 Iun 2011, 22:25

Mecanicul mi-a spus.Luna viitoare TransMontana o sa fie pe trenurile constantene :dance:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 19 Iun 2011, 20:17

Am inteles ca de saptamana viitoare va intra in proprietatea Depoului Bucuresti Calatori. :dance:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 19 Iun 2011, 20:44

TransMontana a fost la tractiunea trenului R795.Iata pozele cu ea:
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 19 Iun 2011, 20:54

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:dance: Mai multe poze in curand!
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Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 19 Iun 2011, 21:16

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Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 19 Iun 2011, 21:46

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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Andrei Irimescu pe 19 Iun 2011, 22:32

Ultimele poze cu TransMontana :)
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Si s-a dus....
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Re: Trans Montana Locomotive made by Softronic

Mesajde Daniel pe 19 Iun 2011, 22:34

Multumim Andrei pentru imagini! :clap: :clap: :clap: Cred ca aceasta masina este cea mai mediatizata din Romania la ora actuala. E drept ca este o noutate prin peisaj. Am inteles de la Vlad0012 ca deja CFR-istii o stiu ca pe "aia cu munti pe ea". :lol:
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